[hegelstoleit]

Who the fuck is buying vegan meat and being like "oh I thought this was meat"? Do we seriously need to legislate that? There's no real victim here, it's just a bunch of people who are sour or feel threatened by meat alternatives. It's ridiculous.

[jzwinck]

Just this week I bought two tubs of vegan yogurt by mistake.

They were the same shape, size and color as the milk based yogurts sitting all around them on the shelf. The only clue was the word "soya" printed at the bottom edge of the tubs in small letters. The kind of letters you'd expect to tell you something like the container size or the country the milk came from.

To be fair this vegan nogurt tastes almost the same as the real thing. But I did not appreciate being tricked into buying it.

[Ekaros]

I would love to start product line "Beyond Vegan" with tag line of "better than vegan food" with Vegan word being very big. And then have it contain lot of meat. Entirely honest and not in any way misleading marketing. And no vegan should be able to complain.

[HermanMartinus]

I think this is misleading in the effect is has. Omnivores still eat non-meat products, but the inverse isn't true and is in-fact pretty fucked up (if the person being deceived believes that eating beef is akin to eating dogs).

I agree that products shouldn't be deceptive, but this is a false dichotomy. More accurately the example should be "Beef Burger", then have it written in small "(dog meat)" as (at least in the West) even meat eaters don't like the idea of eating dogs.

[LunaSea]

Vegans are omnivores too.

They just happen to choose not to eat animal based products.

[Ekaros]

Both beef and canine meat are from mammals. There isn't really much difference between those. Ofc reasonable labelling is reasonable to expect. But they are still meat and nearly every human including vegans can perfectly well eat either.

Same does not apply to companies that try to mislead people by calling something not meat meat or cheese or so on.

[wumpus]

> nearly every human including vegans can perfectly well eat either.

If you haven't eaten meat for decades, you will probably become violently ill if you eat meat.

[herewulf]

Hard disagree. I grew up vegetarian and after 18 years of such a diet I found myself in an environment where I had no choice but to eat meat in order to meet my caloric intake requirements (military basic training, so it was pretty damn low quality meat too -- and don't get me started on field rations (MREs)). I most certainly did not get sick.

Anyone getting sick is most definitely having a psychological reaction (i.e.: a choice) rather than a physiological one. As a young man out in the world on my own I quickly discovered that all the anti-meat propaganda that I was raised with was nothing other than just that. No matter what you're eating, a balanced diet is paramount. Everything in moderation.

[wumpus]

> Anyone getting sick is most definitely having a psychological reaction (i.e.: a choice)

Thanks for letting me know!

[Ekaros]

So like vegan products that have similar effects? And then some people don't even offer right diets to either group...

[tommit]

Oh wow, every time I see these laws about how "consumers must not be tricked into thinking this liquid oat-based product is in fact not bovine titty juice", I think to myself surely there is no one actually falling for this.

The viciousness in your comment makes it clear though, that it does affect you quite a bit.

[mvdwoord]

Perfect illustration! Thanks.

[tvaughan]

> t's just a bunch of people who are sour or feel threatened by meat alternatives

Kast, a right-wing populist politician in Chile, made a big stink during his failed presidential bid over "Not Milk." He said only milk from "happy cows" should be promoted. These so-called proponents of the free market sure do hate competition.

https://www.cnnchile.com/pais/kast-critico-notmilk-necesitam...

[wumpus]

Demonizing minorities, especially unpopular minorities, is not a good sign in a politician.

[cameronh90]

I am veg and I recently accidentally bought and ate a real duck wrap because it looked (and tasted) almost identical to the vegan duck wrap.

However, I am just generally not very observant. I frequently buy sparkling water by accident.