[ohmanjjj]

My source is that we reached out and have high level folks at each carrier saying ain’t nothing gonna change tomorrow or after.

[KennyBlanken]

Did I stutter when I said "provide a link"? You're some rando on an internet website.

[ohmanjjj]

Do you really think they will make a publish statement about this? Call them and see for yourself. There is absolutely no Stir Shaken verification of any kind other than a look up in the robocall mitigation database where each VoIP business self attests to complying with inquiries and other fcc robocall regulations. Takes 5 minutes to create such an entry for your VoIP company and nobody checks it

[ceejayoz]

> Do you really think they will make a publish statement about this?

No, but that's why I'm skeptical about your claim; I don't think they'd tell you that either.

If they did, I'd encourage you to whistleblow.

[ohmanjjj]

I have a very successful VoIP business, why would I blow the whistle? A couple months away from finalizing our Stir Shaken certification, no need to mess things up ahead of time :)

[ceejayoz]

I dunno if the FCC has a program, but whistleblowing can be pretty profitable.

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2021-211

[ketralnis]

So are you, who are you to order them around?

[ceejayoz]

"Nothing's going to change" could mean "nothing's going to change for you" or "it doesn't apply to us yet for reason x", or "we've been compliant long before today". Wording matters, and I find it fairly hard to believe a large VoIP provider is going to openly go "oh yeah we're looking to intentionally get smacked down by the FCC".