[lisper]

> I'd argue what you see as intentional obfuscation is just something new/unfamiliar.

I first encountered Nock and Hoon ten years ago, so these are neither new nor unfamiliar to me at this point.

> I also suspect your dislike for his politics is making it hard to separate the tech from the person.

Why should I separate them? My hypothesis is that the tech is a vehicle for advancing his politics.

> I can recognize the value of the companies and tech they help build independently of that.

So can I. The fact that I don't call Tesla or PayPal cults should led more credence to my position on Urbit.

I've read the Urbit literature and I've taken a pretty deep dive into the code and I've reached the conclusion that Urbit does not have any valid value proposition. I could be wrong, but that is my assessment, which will be of value mainly to people who know me and trust my judgement. If you're not such a person, well, my opinion comes with a money-back guarantee if you aren't satisfied.