[mrguyorama]

Yes, if you want to be humane, don't play the game. I don't know how to make that clearer. You don't get to ignore morality just because you want to make more money. Yes, your would-be competitors are playing the game and being immoral, and we should consider them lesser for it.

Pretending that companies aren't made up of individual people all making constant choices is a very very useful thing for people in companies that want to have their cake and eat it to.

If you sign off on "do bad thing so the company keeps making money" then you should quite literally be ostracized. Your competition only gets to benefit from those horrible things because people like you keep telling us it's a bad thing to expect companies to do better.

[lotsofpulp]

In the meantime, who is putting food on the table for their kids?

People’s choices are to either start a well funded business where margins are huge and you can offer plush benefits, work for a business offering high compensation, work for the government, or do nothing at all?

Immigrants should not try their hand at restaurants or gas stations or convenient stores, tradespeople should not attempt hiring apprentices unless they can give the same compensation as big firms, etc?

> Your competition only gets to benefit from those horrible things because people like you keep telling us it's a bad thing to expect companies to do better.

I have spent many words explaining that this is wrong. The competition gets to benefit because customers will buy from the seller selling at the lowest price. It has nothing to do with people like me or their comments.

Higher paid US manufacturing did not disappear because of people like me. It disappeared because customers wanted to save money and buy cheaper goods made in countries with lower manufacturing costs.