[lisper]

Just because you've gotten value from Urbit doesn't mean it's not a cult. People get value from cults. The problem with cults is not that they don't produce any value. The problem is the cost of being a member is generally high, and this doesn't become evident until it's too late.

In the case of Urbit, that cost is, at the very least, dealing with Nock and Hoon.

[0x732202]

The cost of being a member is literally on the tin. They tell you up front that identities are scarce and must be purchased.

As regards programming cost, I'm speaking from experience when I say that if you know how to program, you already know how to write Hoon. It's that intuitive.