[zaphar]

I don't think this is a true dividing line for a programming language. The Smalltalk language for instance combines both the programming environment and the language together. I don't think anyone seriously argues that smalltalk is not a programming language.

[igouy]

Seems like equivocation — Smalltalk is a programming language when we're using "Smalltalk" to mean Smalltalk the programming language and Smalltalk is a programming environment when we're using "Smalltalk" to mean Smalltalk the programming environment.

[zaphar]

Either way it is still entirely valid to refer to Smalltalk as a programing language.

[igouy]

As-long-as you actually mean a "narrow definition of programming language" otherwise you're saying one thing while meaning another.