[mardifoufs]

This weird obsession some have to make everything about the usa is just ridiculous especially in this case.

If you think there is any similarity between the UAE/KSA and even the most regressive US states in how they treat LGBT rights, you should really really take a step back and reconsider. Yes, it's funny to call those states the equivalent "American talibans" or whatever, but it doesn't make it true.

It's so weird to see that people unironically repeat the most blatantly hyperbolic, obviously partisan and inflammatory rhetoric to the point of actually where they start believing it themselves.

[trasz]

You do realise that even UAE and Afghanistan both have more humane abortion laws than some of the southern states, don't you?

[mardifoufs]

What does it have to do with LGBT rights? Also, your comment is completely wrong, but again it's representative of the weird hyperbole that sounds completely hysterical from an outsiders perspective. For starters, even if abortion becomes completely illegal in any given US state, you can still travel across state lines and get one. Not ideal, but in Afghanistan you can't get an abortion or even travel without your husband's consent. And that's even if we were to take at face value the assertion that abortion is not illegal in Afghanistan (it is, for all intents and purpose).

And if we were to simply go by official laws instead of what the reality on the ground is, abortion in germany (and some other EU countries) is still technically illegal except for medical emergencies so surely Afghanistan and the UAE are actually just more progressive than the west!

[trasz]

"Abortion is permitted until the 4th week of pregnancy, extended if there are medical issues" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Afghanistan). Care to provide links to your sources?

[mardifoufs]

Every single source relevant to the discussion on that page is pre-taliban overtake. Citing a wikipage is just absurd in this situation anyways,it completely misses my point.

The law can say anything, the reality on the ground is different. So even if the taliban were to keep the law allowing abortion, it doesn't make it actually allowed. It would be like saying that finland has the most restrictive abortion laws in the world because they don't legally allow abortions (which is actually illegal there). No one actually believes that, like no one believes women have less reproductive rights in the USA than in afghanistann, unless you really drink the USA-centric hyperbole kool-aid.

[trasz]

Yet you can’t quote even a single source that supports your theory.