[JackFr]

Hypothetically, what if you believe that this closed bedroom behavior is disordered and unhealthy, and that celebrating it, while admittedly well-intentioned, is not helpful, good or the best way to love or respect these people?

Despite that attitude being the norm for much of human history, to advocate such a position now is literally modern heresy, and the end to your career and any public life.

Diversity of opinion is trivial if we agree only to differ on the easy stuff and not the difficult stuff.

[GekkePrutser]

> Hypothetically, what if you believe that this closed bedroom behavior is disordered and unhealthy, and that celebrating it, while admittedly well-intentioned, is not helpful, good or the best way to love or respect these people?

You are saying that the Arab countries do this because they want to love or respect these people?

Maybe not stoning them to death might be more helpful. Just saying.

> Diversity of opinion is trivial if we agree only to differ on the easy stuff and not the difficult stuff.

This is the thing... I don't think this is the difficult stuff at all. It's just nobody else's business if people are gay.

[Banana699]

>You are saying that the Arab countries do this because they want to love or respect these people?

Obviously bad faith, GP never mentioned the arab countries, they were talking about how western countries screaming about "bowing down" is hypocrisy, since they themselves do an aweful lot of making people, most of the time their own citizens, bow down when they could leave them alone. So if your house is made of glass, keep away from the stones. UAE is threatening a corporation to enforce an ideology, that is aweful, Oh gee, I wonder what that style reminds me of.

Preach only what you would do for others if the positions were reversed. Do not ask what you don't give.

>I don't think this is the difficult stuff at all.

I also think all my opinions are extremly based and uncontroversial in the slightest, all my enemies are just dumb and evil, they are making it up, they are not genuinely disagreeing.

Come on. This is the oldest trick in the book.

What good is free speeach if you're just going to relegate it to 'the difficult stuff', defined as whatever you say is the difficult stuff ? This is just like how authoritarian regimes say they are not impriosning 'genuine opposition', just the bad people who pretend to be dissidents but actually want to destabilize the country. But, mystery of mysteries, there never seems to be any 'genuine opposition' who are not harrased and imprisoned, it always turns out that all oppositions in those countries are of the bad kind. Almost as if selectiely defining exceptions to free speech is some tool authoritarians use to silence people without giving up the moral high ground.

[azth]

Homosexual acts are prohibited in the Islamic faith. No one is forcing you to accept it, as such, you should leave those countries rule according to their faith. Islam has been preserved for over 1,400 years now, we don't need or want external meddling. We have already faced brutal colonization from the West in our history, and continue to do so.