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by mulmen 1459 days ago
Of course they aren’t all stolen. Why would that absolute be implied or necessary?

The question is if any guns are stolen and the effect of publishing this list on the number of stolen guns.

I’m not sure how that is controversial. There can be other sources of guns. That doesn’t make this less bad.
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sha256sum 1459 days ago
Well the comment was in response to a claim that criminals get guns through burglary. Being a diligent person, I asked for a citation because it seemed like someone was making a claim out of their ass. I was right: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/procon/g...
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mulmen 1459 days ago
Your link doesn't say what you seem to think it says. Gun theft is not the main way criminals get guns but it doesn't matter because it is still a way. Specifically it is the way that this data leak can contribute to the number of stolen guns.
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ClumsyPilot 1459 days ago
dying by getting tangled in bedsheets is not the Main way to die, but its still a way, so we should get rid of bedsheets.

if some contrived scenario represents less than 1% of the problem we are discussing, it's not a real problem.

there are 8 billion people in the world, and it is always possible to find someone who has done something, no matter how ridiculous.

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mulmen 1459 days ago
The leak of gun owners isn’t likely to contribute to the number of straw purchases. It could directly lead to gun thefts.

The existence of a problem does not dismiss the validity of another.

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8note 1459 days ago
Open carrying similarly can directly lead to gun thefts.

Its not the governments responsibility to secure your guns either way. If anything more public detailed information about who owns guns is better so that people can properly avoid dangerous gun owners

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notch656a 1459 days ago
>If anything more public detailed information about who owns guns is better so that people can properly avoid dangerous gun owners

Included in the 'leak' were people who merely _applied_ for a CCW. Not necessarily that you have a weapon or even a CCW license.

And where does this 'so we can avoid dangerous <x>' end? For instance, controlled substance prescriptions become government owned data when they are relayed to the DEA. Shall we publish private information of anyone prescribed anything related to conditions that increase their chance of being at risk of committing a violent crime?

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mulmen 1459 days ago
> Open carrying similarly can directly lead to gun thefts.

Ok? So we agree?

> Its not the governments responsibility to secure your guns either way.

Ok? But that’s not been argued. It is also the government’s responsibility to not endanger the lives of citizens.

> If anything more public detailed information about who owns guns is better so that people can properly avoid dangerous gun owners

This list contains the names and employment details of judges and corrections officers (and their families) who are at risk of revenge. It may also contain the name of survivors of assault who wish to protect themselves from their abusers.

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