[Grustaf]

> This isn't a partisan issue

It was you that said "our current government". I would have thought the Democratic party was in favour of a working welfare system, at least for small children.

You adoption numbers are not relevant, we are not talking about children, we are talking about newborns. Since there are apparently 2 million American couples wanting to adopt right now, and only 18000 being adopted each year, I'd say the demand is very strong.

I'm not sure what cost has to do with it, surely you are not arguing that abortion should be a way to save money by not having to give birth?

And I'm sure a lot of adoptive parents would be more than happy to bear the cost of childbirth. In a civilised country essential healthcare is of course socialised, but we are talking about the US here.

[falcolas]

Here I thought we were talking about protecting lives in the world as it is. Not just babies in an idealized world that doesn't reflect the US' current or projected state.

Anyways. Have a great day.

[Grustaf]

That's what I am discussing. And I'm saying that literally millions of people are waiting to adopt. Pretty sure most of them would be more than happy to pay $5k for the birth. If not, adoption agencies should be obliged to cover it.

I'm sure you don't think that it's acceptable that women would kill their unborn children because they can't afford the cost of birth?