[5e92cb50239222b]

Most of that evangelism doesn't even make any sense to me as a non-USian. I understand the US has its own share of internal problems, but feeding that to the whole world when I just want to download the damn browser seems weird. I won't post any links here to avoid offending anyone, but they should be pretty obvious.

[soundnote]

Not only does it not make sense, they presume they know better than their poor users what their users should see and what opinion on web content they should have. If I want activist browser developers, give me teams like Brave and Vivaldi, thankyouverymuch. Both actually do things that serve the end user in their own way. Insofar as the browsers have politics, they are politics about the browser itself like antitracking, privacy and user control.

Also not American and yeah, if California would stay in California, that would be great.

[wolverine876]

> if California would stay in California, that would be great

Then you wouldn't have most of the IT industry and especially FOSS.

[yeetsfromhellL2]

>especially FOSS.

I just wanted to log in and point out that Free Software got started at MIT.

[wolverine876]

That did cross my mind as I wrote the GP, but the center of it has been and is CA.

[sph]

Europe: am I a joke to you?

FOSS might've been born in the US but it's not a US only phenomenon these days, let alone Californian.

[theandrewbailey]

As a resident of a flyover state, I re-read that with California instead of US, and it still made sense.