[Achshar]

"or reply as to why are you down voting?"

well i don't want to get upvotes but if you disagree with me then please take some more time to write a quick comment as to why.

Well i posted asking if it will be visible to naked eye, someone quoted a part of the story (indirectly) saying that it won't be and i happened to have missed that part, and i get down voted (for missing reading a part of the story).. well then i acknowledge that i missed it and i get down voted still even then i asked the down voter why was he is down voting my comments and guess what.. i got down voted.. again. but no one has balls to write back, or maybe they are super busy with their work but anyways, and i wont edit this comment but i can say two things:

- you (or any of the downvoters) probably won't reply to this comment either. - this comment will (almost certainly) be down voted too.

lets see how correct i am..

[knieveltech]

You worry entirely too much about karma.

[Achshar]

again.. i dont need karma, i am just saying that if someone disagrees with me, just comment and tell me why, so that we can discuss or i can know why am i wrong.

[udp]

You get downvoted when your comments are low quality and/or don't add to the discussion. Every comment you write with "why did you downvote me???" is both low quality and doesn't add to the discussion.

Relax, it's only HN. Go build something instead.

[Achshar]

so i cannot add a comment as long as i don't have anything useful and accurate to say..? hmm can you honestly say that you agree with the notion that 'write constructive and accurate comments or don't write anything at all'?

My first ever comment in this thread was a legit question only that it's answer was already hidden in the parent article. I guess that didn't "add to discussion" then.

In short newbies cannot learn about the 'ways' of HN without being looked down upon (which is always so great for the morale). interesting. I hope my comment 'adds to the discussion' of the condition of 'ways' of HN :)

PS thanks for replying! i was kind of confused :D

[PotatoEngineer]

Right: if you can't say something useful and accurate, please don't post. (There's still a LOT to say, so don't let that stop you from posting at all!) If you post in good faith and are inaccurate, then it's good form to either edit your post to acknowledge the error, or delete your post.

Getting downvoted is one way that newbies learn about HN; most of the time, the downvote comes with a discussion.

(One last note: sarcasm is really hard to detect in writing; we miss the tone of voice and all the nonverbal cues. It's polite to mark a sarcastic response with something that shows you're being sarcastic. Don't count on just the content of your post to show sarcasm.)