[voisin]

It isn’t just that it is exclusionary. It also micromanaged setbacks, heights, parking ratios, amount of green space, etc etc etc. All of this adds costs and decreases diversity that you see in dense European/Asian cities that have stood for Thousands of years.

There’s a pretence of knowledge that modern planners are smarter than all who have come before, and the result has been an abject failure that planners won’t admit to.

[masklinn]

> It isn’t just that it is exclusionary.

Oh no, far from it, but it’s the root.

> There’s a pretence of knowledge that modern planners are smarter than all who have come before, and the result has been an abject failure that planners won’t admit to.

They’re only a failure if you assume planning in the US is about sustainable, equitable, liveable spaces.

[voisin]

> They’re only a failure if you assume planning in the US is about sustainable, equitable, liveable spaces.

100%. Which is why I favour abolishing zoning bylaws. If it was truly about sustainability, equity, or creating living spaces designed for human flourishing, then I would support them, but it isn’t now and it never was.