[__sisyphus__]

Yeah, this is a good point. I still have a lot of friends from my youth that are pretty serious southern baptists/calvinists, and many of them genuinely believe that aborted babies may actually go to hell. They understand it's a strange thing to say, often admitting they could be wrong, but I suppose it's a more logically sealed version of their beliefs, even if it seems strange.

[belter]

“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.”

-Steven Weinberg