[djrobstep]

Dealing with all these differences is one of the most frustrating, stupid things about programming today.

99% of the data i deal with on a day-to-day basis is lists and mappings.

Very conceptually simple, but with a million different implementations. Particularly in python where we have dicts, namedtuples, dataclasses, regular objects, etc etc etc, then you deal with databases (which are really just mappings of keys to rows), where the interaction works completely differently again (with annoying differences for each database of course). Then hundreds of different encodings again to send things across a network or save them to files.

None of this complexity is inherent to the problems being solved - it's all accumulated cruft and bullshit.

[oivey]

At least with things like databases and Pandas you can claim that there might be a valid performance reason for a different abstraction. Regular objects allow for inheritance which I usually find bad, but lots of people do like it. NamedTuples, TypedDicts, and Dataclasses are basically all rapid iterations on the same idea with the same purpose.

[pharmakom]

I completely agree.

You would probably love Clojure. Perhaps you tried it already?