| "I also read that report, but I got a different vibe from it than you did." You read the 1000 pages? Respect! But is it even "science" or just a bunch of predictions? "The doomsday scenarios will come to pass if we don't make some pretty drastic changes." They won't, and afaik even the IPCC scenarios are not all doomsday scenarios. But there is no point arguing it with true believers. "But locally some countries are already experiencing the first set of symptoms and it isn't pretty. (Notably: the South of Europe and North Africa)" Are they? I have asked the question a lot to point out a real climate change impact, and never received an answer. There were answers, but when I looked into it, the real reason was always something else, like drilling wells and depleting the ground water and so on. Non climate change human actions still do enormously more environmental damage than climate change. Of course if you can claim "it was climate change", especially as a third world country, you are eligible for receiving a lot of monetary compensation. So most articles and claims attach it as a footnote, "also because of climate change". |