[BoGs83]

I think you are removing the act of raising a child which its success in today's world is purely monetary. If you cannot afford to feed yourself how are you going to afford the doctors, diapers, extra room, school, clothes, etc. etc. Strangers are not going to help raise the child, like back in tribe ages where there so many children that everyone in the tribe had a part. The social benefits from government when you have a child are abysmal even in the "good" states in America.

When discussing value of life people usually pick their preferred side. Do homeless people have a value on life? America treats homeless as garbage. What about disabled people?

[FollowingTheDao]

> f you cannot afford to feed yourself how are you going to afford the doctors, diapers, extra room, school, clothes, etc. etc.

People do this all over the world.

> Strangers are not going to help raise the child, like back in tribe ages where there so many children that everyone in the tribe had a part.

and

> The social benefits from government when you have a child are abysmal even in the "good" states in America.

So why are we not addressing these things? But actually, that is what adoption is all about. True? Stranger raisin your baby?

> When discussing value of life people usually pick their preferred side.

I don't. I do not discuss their value monetarily at all. That is incomprehensible. By the way, I am homeless, and yes, I see both Democrats and Republicans treat me like garbage. They both do not care about life at any point.

[moistly]

Adoption is a colossal failure in America. Tens of thousands of children “age out” and will never, ever be adopted; tens of thousands are adopted for use as house slaves or sex slaves for the abusive “parents”; the entire system is filled with neglect and abuse.

[FollowingTheDao]

> Adoption is a colossal failure in America.

Again, look at this. No one wants to elect people to fix these problems, we just keep on voting in these corporate capitalism politicians and then they tell you to just have an abortion because you cannot afford the high cost of everything and the low wages.

I am not anti-abortion, I just want a society where they are not needed becasue money.