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by belltaco 1461 days ago
Yes.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-politics-of-the...

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This person is in no way interested in facts, they'll move the goalposts again after it becomes widespread practice.
I seem to be the only one interested in facts rather than hysterical speculation. The facts are nobody can produce a law or proposed law banning contraception or IVF or requiring every embryo to be used.

What's been produced so far is an article from 2005 (above) about a handful of extreme conservative groups, which has clearly gone nowhere in the past 17 years and a video of Ben Shapiro, whose only job is to say provocative bullshit.

Okay, I will make a note to reply to you again when these things come to pass.

At some point, you have to admit that the "hysterical speculation" is really just foresight given current events.

Will you admit it then? I honestly am happy waiting to reply till then.

It seems like you want these things to happen so you can gloat and say "I told you so"

If instead you were interested in the opposite result - making women's reproductive rights explicitly legal - what you would need to do in a democracy is convince enough people to vote for the laws you want.

To do that you need to understand what the people you disagree with are actually saying and what the actual words are in the laws that you don't like. Not speculation about what you imagine the logical conclusion of their reasoning is, not what you read in a headline or a tweet about what the law says (those are often misleading and sometimes outright lies), but the real words that are in the law.

From that point you can attempt to address the real arguments that the people you disagree with are really making. Addressing fake arguments that you imagined they made does not convince anyone.