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by kibwen 1461 days ago
"As of March 2022, a broad majority of Americans oppose overturning Roe v. Wade (61%) and just over one-third (36%) support it. Opposition is highest among Democrats (74%), including a majority (56%) who strongly oppose overturning Roe. Most independents (61%) also oppose a Roe overturn."

https://www.prri.org/spotlight/most-oppose-overturning-roe-v...
1 comments
jollybean 1461 days ago
That's making my point though.

Those numbers are far closer to 50/50 than one would imagine in the bubble, but that's also reference to specifically overturning Roe v. Wade, not whether or not abortion should be legal, which is closer to 50/50.

Have a look at the second chart[1]

It's been 'mostly, roughly, steadily ~50/50 'ish' for about 20 years.

I think most self described progressives would be surprised by those numbers, and even the 64/36, as you brought up.

This is a 'big win' for 35% of the country, and another 15% are maybe ok with it, and a few others ambivalent.

That sentiment I think is at odds with the moral outrage felt by ~55% of the country, and it's hard to ingest.

Which makes this a big more difficult to navigate than I think we might normally assume.

I think Google's response is rational, but it's not as 'Black and White' an issue as our 'tech culture instincts' might have us believe.

[1] https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

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divided 1460 days ago
The "bubble" tends to claim the numbers are 60-70% (and higher in tech companies). Polling shows the numbers between 60-70%.

No, most self described progressives would not be surprised that the numbers are where they say they are.

Literally all throughout this thread people are using these same numbers. I'm curious how far off your perception of progressives is from reality. What numbers do you think we believe are accurate?

Further, _you_ should reference the first chart you linked. It should clearly indicate to you that many who identify as pro-life do indeed support at least partial abortion rights.

85% believe abortions should be allowed in all or some circumstances. 13% believe illegal in all circumstances. Many states under conservative control will go to illegal in all circumstances, so that's the opinion of 13% controlling the freedoms of the other 85%. Not so close to 50/50, huh?

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