[breadloaf]

Aren't you from automotive? Because I was leaving from there from exactly same reasons + another PITA were endless and pointless training sessions - Lean, 5S, managing, manufacturing, ... and all of that despite the fact that we were only software branch which never had any access to production.

[icedchai]

Nah, I just had a bad experience at a "mid-sized" company that still called itself a startup 10+ years after founding.