[cehlen]

This is not a religious argument. The 14th amendment prohibits the states from depriving “any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” The first question is when does a fetus become a person. I don’t know the answer to that for absolute certainty and pretty sure everyone else commenting on this does not either. If we can agree that no single person can identify when a fetus becomes a person, keeping in mind lots of people think they know everything about all things. The ultimate question that needs be answered is what number of people need to agree when life begins? Only one person decides when life begin i.e. the mother, nine i.e. the Supreme Court, or thousands i.e. we the people vote on it. I would argue we in U.S. tend lean more towards the more significant the issue the more people are required for consensus.

[hobs]

It's been the religious right stated strategy for decades, I don't know how I could take any of your argument as credible without acknowledging that fact.

[cehlen]

My friend, two things can be true at the same time. The religious right can have a strategy to end abortion for their own reasons and the 14th amendment can be an essential right that must be protected.