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by biggieshellz 1457 days ago
I feel you. I drove my old pickup truck to the Domain last year to pick up some Christmas gifts, wearing jeans and a button-down flannel shirt, and I felt completely out of place. So much ostentatious wealth here now.
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With all due respect: you drove up to the an area that was mostly built up from nothing in the past 2 decades, is being developed as a “second downtown” and you feel sad to be out of place?

Have you been downtown of any major american city?

I play jazz, and I go to downtown Austin fairly frequently, and never felt that way there. The Domain is just... weird, and not in an Austin way.
The way the Domain was explained to me is that there's a mobile cosmopolitan upper class that likes to float around the planet without ever feeling a sense of uncomfortable unfamiliarity. Austin attracted their attention partly by being "cool" and more importantly by having a Formula 1 track. The Domain was created to make money by helping those people feel at home.

The one person I've met who lived in the Domain was a rich tech guy from another continent who "moved" to Austin but never actually spent much time here. He rented an apartment in the Domain that was mostly vacant because he was always in other countries, acquired a girlfriend in Austin, was rarely here, and eventually stopped coming to Austin altogether. He treated Austin basically the same way I treat a restaurant. He came once, got really excited about his experience, came a few times more and then felt less excited, and then never came back because there was always another city somewhere else that he was a little bit more jazzed about. He was so wealthy that this level of interest in a city involved him renting an apartment for a couple of years and considering purchasing a condo. I wouldn't be surprised if he did purchase a condo, and it's been sitting empty for years because he likes having it and the cost of maintaining it pales next to the effort of finding somebody to manage it as a rental property for him.

That's what the Domain is, a world built for those people.

It made me feel like I was walking around on the set of The Truman Show every time I went up there.
Did you ever get to play The Elephant Room ? One of my favorite Austin spots.
Only at the Monday night jam sessions. But I have played at Parker, which is also a wonderful spot.
Driving an old pickup truck is an ostentatious display of wealth at current petro prices.
How? Buying a new car is far more expensive than an extra couple thousand on fuel per year. And that is if you drive 20k miles per year.

Financially, I would be further ahead if I just spend a little extra on the fuel and invest the amount I would have used to buy a new car.

Starting price for EVs is around $50k. Driving one of those seems more ostentatious to me.
How about a 1k ebike for everything you can use it for and the car for everything else?
I am shopping for one right now. You may be underestimating the price though.

Good ebikes (this is a car replacement, after all) are closer to $5k. $8-10k for a high end cargo ebike.

Anyone buying a car should look at TCO. The average new car price of any type is ~$40,000 in the US, so you're better off long-term with an EV based on fuel costs alone. Add in the really low maintenance needed for an EV and you're even further ahead.
A good petrol car can be bought used for $15-20k. Comparing the price of a new one to an EV is a false equivalency because you can't buy used EVs for anywhere near that.

TCO only favors EVs if you drive enough to offset fuel, oil changes, and maintenance. All bets are off if you replace the battery.

Heck, for a third of that.

You probably won't get something with all the features one would want, but it'll be a safe and reliable ride

> A good petrol car can be bought used for $15-20k. Comparing the price of a new one to an EV is a false equivalency because you can't buy used EVs for anywhere near that.

You can definitely find a used EV for under 20k.

https://www.carvana.com/cars/nissan-leaf-under-15k

The presence of low-range EVs—many of which need battery or tire replacements—doesn't really change the point. A similarly priced Honda Fit from the same model year is a better value due to its low maintenance costs, fuel economy, and infinite range.
> Anyone buying a car should look at TCO. The average new car price of any type is ~$40,000 in the US, so you're better off long-term with an EV based on fuel costs alone. Add in the really low maintenance needed for an EV and you're even further ahead.

If TCO matters, buy a cheap used car for ~$5K and nothing can beat the TCO.

And old pickup truck prices.