[ddorian43]

This always gets flamewar territory. My general answers are:

1. In every health thread we should post a picture of our body

2. Find a doctor that agrees with your opinion. Whatever it is you will find one.

3. I/we usually take harder things than the keto/carnivore thing (trust me)

4. Many things that we've been told our lives has been a lie. Maybe the keto/carnivore is also like that.

5. Please gather all your docs and start a thread on twitter with the "top" keto researchers (@nicknorwitz, @KetoCarnivore, @ChrisPalmerMD, @realDaveFeldman some that I follow)

6. High carb is killing the developed world. Please exercise caution.

[Judgmentality]

I don't want to continue a flame war, but I want to respond to this:

> 2. Find a doctor that agrees with your opinion. Whatever it is you will find one.

I don't want a doctor to confirm my bias. I want a doctor to give me objective data about my health.

[ddorian43]

> I don't want a doctor to confirm my bias.

You randomly got one that confirmed your bias.

See Virta Health for FDA approved example. It's progressing slowly.

If you are open minded for real check the book "Brain Energy" https://www.amazon.com/Brain-Energy-Revolutionary-Understand...

[Judgmentality]

> You randomly got one that confirmed your bias.

When I listen to someone tell me objective data I'm confirming a bias I never had to begin with? The amount of projecting you're doing is extraordinary. If a doctor told you your kidneys were failing after getting them tested (I already linked the research for you to read, but clearly you're afraid of information that doesn't confirm your bias), would you then go find a doctor that tells you your kidneys are fine? Your fear of information is literally going to kill you. This is the mentality that leads to anti-vaxxing.

> If you are open minded for real check

This is ironic since you're not even open-minded to listening to a doctor, or medical research, or anything that disagrees with what you already think you know.

You are a perfect example of the Dunning Kruger effect.

[ddorian43]

I wish I was as innocent as you but not everyone is so lucky.

In my case, I've improved my health care issues given to me by my parents with keto/carnivore.

Hope you do the same.

Note: you never mentioned anything about yourself, not what you eat or train or anything. Just the cancer and the paper.

The paper you linked had nearly everything wrong starting from the high protein, the acidosis thing, the meat/eggs being associated with diabetes, the doctor recommending vegan.

[ddorian43]

> I never even said the word cancer

You forgot your friend's dad.

The ONLY way to know something is to become an expert yourself. If you do keto for several years, you will see that I'm correct.

But you can't compare several years of experience with just reading a paper.

I'm talking what I do for several years and progress while you link to a paper that is clearly wrong to anyone knowing keto basics.

You are a midwit! Also see the "Ackchyually meme". It happens often with people with no real world/life experience beside reading title of papers thinking they're smart.

[Judgmentality]

My friend's dad has stage 3 renal failure, not cancer. I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about and you're just rambling now. Enjoy your self-contained bubble of delusion where nobody can harm you (except yourself, but you'd need to be self-aware to realize that).

Cheers.

[ddorian43]

Who cares about your friend's dead dad, I was at the gym and misread/misremembered.

The paper is still wrong.

Even keto/carnivore can help with delusions/schizophrenia/bipolar: Dr. Chris Palmer - 'The Ketogenic Diet in Neurology and Psychiatry' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUtwr_6sFw4. He is a doctor, try watching the video.

But, being a midwit is genetic. No cure for that. I'm sorry.