[tluyben2]

Not sure if it's a counter point; people do 'stuff' and attribute 'other stuff that happens' from the 'stuff' they do. I am a vegetarian eating a balanced diet and have no issues bulking up. Just do whatever works and don't bother too many other people with it; keto/meatonly/fatonly (yes, I understand these are different things!) people are usually so 'I have discovered god!' and keep telling people about it who are absolutely not going to do it. I just eat what I like and am happy; no need to tell it to everyone, all the time.

I even recognise one of the poster's nicknames here for trying to push some insane (to me; I would say it will be a fluke of nature if this person gets beyond 65 y/o) meat/fat only diets on HN.

[kinghtown]

For me, the carnivore diet is obnoxious at best. It’s ethically in the red by a lot let alone being unnecessary to be a manly man or whatever the hell it is these guys think they’re achieving on a red meat only diet. WHO advises less meat if anything. You guys should all be in the range between mediterranean lifestyle to vegan. Eating only meat is nasty.

[eixiepia]

Counter point: For me, vegan diet is not only obnoxious, but also dangerous. Years as a vegan wrecked my health and permanently my teeth. Carnivore was the way out of this downward spiral for me.

[decodebytes]

Sorry to hear that. I won't try to fault your experience, just state its not a given this is the case for everyone. I have been a vegan for 16 years now. I would say I am in excellent health. Each year I run several 100 mile mountain races along side training all year (running, swimming, hiking and biking), and will be attempting 258 miles non stop race for 5-6 days in the middle of the British winter 2023 (the montane spine race), so I must be doing something right. I very rarely get sick. I also manage a large team of engineers at work and have a young family.

[kinghtown]

Most likely you have no idea what you’re doing swinging from one fad diet to another.

[eixiepia]

If it makes you feel better you're welcome to believe that, but I'm sorry to inform you that this is not the case. However, my good health after many years on the carnivore diet is enough for me, I don't have the need to convince anyone.

[hypertele-Xii]

> I just eat what I like and am happy

An unacceptably selfish attitude in 2022 where industrial-scale mass production of meat foods are literally making our planet unlivable at alarming rates.

As a conscious human being within civilized society you have a responsibility to do the right thing, even if it means taking on a little discomfort in the short term.

Your happiness has less priority than our survival as a species.

[caracustard]

Diets are not a "little discomfort in the short term" and treating them in such a way is a slippery slope to things that neither you nor i would be happy to observe. To adopt a particular diet means to be reliant on a specific set of foods, which is not feasable. Diets are also geographical and are shaped by the conditions that those who follow the diet have to live in. It's not as easy as "just don't eat meat".

[kybernetyk]

>Your happiness has less priority than our survival as a species.

Said the next Hitler/Mao/Stalin...

[hypertele-Xii]

If veganism, ecology, and environmentalism are to be associated with genocidal megalomania, god help us survive ourselves.