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by gambler 1463 days ago
Blatantly incorrect. Google engages in egregious political censorship all the time. Including censorship for Russian government and censorship of US anti-war voices.

https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-responds-to-cpac-censorshi...

https://reclaimthenet.org/google-expanded-its-censorship-of-...

https://reclaimthenet.org/russia-continues-to-order-google-t...

In US they pretend to "decide" to censor things "on their own" because 1st amendment prevents the government from officially demanding censorship.

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> This is either astounding ignorance or blatant gaslighting.

Can you please edit name-calling / swipes like that out of your HN comments? It breaks the site guidelines and weakens your point.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Considering the importance of the topic, and provided the linked articles actually contained examples of Google censoring anti-war propaganda, I believe the swipe would have been fully justified.

Highly emotional tone changes how the data affects the reader. If he is right, I would surely better remember next time that Google is in the same ballpark due to the insult hitting hard. If he is wrong, I will know better to ignore such claims in the future without a direct quote or something else that consumes less time than reading an entire linked article.

None of your links show Google censoring anti-war propaganda.
Still no. First case I would not even consider censorship. The third one was temporary until Google stopped operating in Russia altogether.

A quote from the second one: "cumulative 45 percent decrease in traffic from Google searches"

There is a difference between "Google does not censor anti-war content" and "Google does censor anti-war content, but usually has an excuse I find acceptable".

When a company puts Jon Lennon's Merry Xmas (War is Over) behind age restriction banner[1], the question stops being "Is there censorship?" and becomes about the logic of such censorship.

>The third one was temporary until Google stopped operating in Russia altogether.

They've censored other things on behest of the Russian government for years[2]. Again, I cannot fathom how people on a tech website like HN can be unaware of such things. This is common knowledge broadly covered on mainstream websites.

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[1] https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-john-lennon-war-is-over-wa...

[2] https://www.rferl.org/a/google-censors-search-results-after-...

Precisely zero of what you mentioned so far is censoring anti-war content.

Even in the translation case (which I assume you mean by your "excuse" remark) the original source is still available as is. I am not even sure from the description what translation team it was talking about and what does it have to do with Google exactly. "translate company text for the Russian market" this passage sounds like it talks about translating Google's own interfaces, help pages, press releases, or support articles to Russian. E.g. no external voice is being censored.