I am confused. They didn't want children to vape but they were in schools saying it is safe? This makes zero sense and I am not sure how your reply is coherent. Does the Sinclair quote apply here?
> This makes zero sense and I am not sure how your reply is coherent.
> * I cannot reiterate enough just how incompetent Juul was in 2017.
Pretty sure that's how they think the reply is coherent. My understanding so far is that someone in some decision-making capacity at Juul decided that it would be a good idea for company representatives to go to schools with the intent to tell students that vaping is bad mm'kay (but it's totally not as bad as cigarettes). This was done specifically because they did not want to sell to youths.
I've worked around other people long enough for that to be appropriately stupid. Yes, it makes zero sense, and that is, in part, why it's so believable.
Juul the brand does not want to market to kids because laws, FDA, etc. Some incompetent VP of marketing wanted to quickly boost numbers, ethics be damned.
I don't mean to stick up for Juul, but it's not out of the realm of possibility considering how incompetent the company sounds from the above.
If I had to guess it would have been some nebulous 'youth prevention' team thinking it was wise to go into schools and explain why cigarettes were bad and vaping wasn't encouraged yada yada.
Inexcusable but Juul was a quintessential "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" company. (I don't expect people to believe me on that.)
>"never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
and that for the execs and the likes means "never do malice as malice, do it under the guise of stupidity". The VW diesel-gate comes to mind - they skillfully spun it like it wasn't VW malice as a company, and instead like it was some rogue employees.
May be you believe that you're saying. Yet giving the MBA types in charge of the company, my bet would be that they intentionally targeted youth while blaming it on whatever incompetence and chaos you're describing.
But then why would they intentionally target a group who has little to no money and can’t legally buy their product? And somewhere juuls advertising style got twisted and any ad not showing an adult (read over 30) is targeting youths?
Now I am waiting for the conspiracy theorists to twist your words and imply that you must be a company shill.
Or to tell you how evil you were working, and how they only produce using ethically sourced curly braces, with fairtrade electricity, an organic compiler, on their own hand-carved recyclable wooden laptop.
Juuls are not the most popular device by far. Most vaper I know use some custom or larger device. I’ve seen maybe 2 juuls in the wild and as a juul user myself as well as a heavy traveler, if they were the most popular vape then finding the pods would be easy yet many trips i switch to vuse as it’s easier to find their pods.
> This makes zero sense and I am not sure how your reply is coherent.
> * I cannot reiterate enough just how incompetent Juul was in 2017.
Pretty sure that's how they think the reply is coherent. My understanding so far is that someone in some decision-making capacity at Juul decided that it would be a good idea for company representatives to go to schools with the intent to tell students that vaping is bad mm'kay (but it's totally not as bad as cigarettes). This was done specifically because they did not want to sell to youths.
I've worked around other people long enough for that to be appropriately stupid. Yes, it makes zero sense, and that is, in part, why it's so believable.