[the_af]

"Best in some aspects" is not an unqualified best. Maybe Ive should have been more careful about his wording -- which was my point, after all!

> its probably your hatred for Ive that seems to be clouding your judgement

Wow. Hatred. I don't even know the guy, how can I hate him? I don't own a Mac, I just use one provided by my work. I don't own an iphone. I really don't pay much attention to Ive at all, just pointing out a flaw in his wording.

Hatred. Really. Is that how you normally debate?

[sumedh]

> Is that how you normally debate

Is that how you normally debate by making personal attacks? You have already made up your mind the Ive makes many mistakes.

> Maybe Ive should have been more careful about his wording -- which was my point, after all!

and my point was that there are nuances which for some reason you still dont understand because you have already made up your mind about Ive, so lets agree to disagree because you are not going to change your opinion.

[the_af]

I'm sorry, where did I personally attack you? I struggle to follow your line of reasoning.

> You have already made up your mind the Ive makes many mistakes.

I made my mind just like any person would: by looking at past behavior. This is not a sin, is how human judgment works.

> you still dont understand

Ok then. Good luck with your debate tactics.

[sumedh]

You are making personal attacks saying Ive has made many mistakes, instead of just arguing about the main point you have already made up your mind that whatever he does is a mistake and then you refuse to understand why you are wrong.

I dont need luck when facts are on my side. Good luck understanding nuance in the future.

[the_af]

> You are making personal attacks saying Ive has made many mistakes

That's not a personal attack.

> you have already made up your mind that whatever he does is a mistake

Uh, no.

As I said, good luck with that.

[sumedh]

If you were being interviewed for jury selection for case against Ive, you would not be selected because of your bias against Ive.

As I said, Good luck understanding nuance in the future.

[the_af]

Jury selection, uh? Your line of argumentation is now surreal.

Good luck, and good bye.