[mpfundstein]

better for the people. for wildlife and nature its a different story though...

[bkraz]

Not necessarily disagreeing, but do you have some metrics to show the scale and speed of the problem?

[vehemenz]

You're shifting the burden to the parent asking for metrics for something that is common knowledge amongst middle schoolers.

[bkraz]

There are many metrics. I was mainly interested to know which ones would be selected. The whole thread is about using data instead of widely held beliefs...