[the_af]

Both definitions 1 & 2 are universal and not exclusive to design, and furthermore, prove my point.

I stand by my opinion: Ive was either careless about words, or pointing out a flaw in Apple's process.

Please, don't try to convince me I don't understand product design or what "best" means. At this point, this intellectual match trying to save Ive from his own words is not productive.

Let's agree to disagree.

[nomel]

How about an example then? Could you tell me what the best car to buy is? If you present the same make, model, and year as me, then perhaps you’re right. From what you've said, I think we can agree that you don't need details like my location, income, number of passengers, range, or driving habits.

[the_af]

> Could you tell me what the best car to buy is?

No, why would I?

> From what you've said, I think we can agree that [...]

No, we cannot agree on nothing of the sort. Where did I say I'm a car design expert?

Please stop trying to make me say things I don't want to. I'm just pointing out Ive's misleading use of language. Since Ive is a design expert, I hold him to a higher standard, but he certainly didn't "make the cut"! Maybe he wasn't the "best" after all.