[ImCEOBitch]

I was just throwing out some desktop-specific things at the end and have no interest in running any BSD as a desktop anymore.

They all suffer from the good enough but not mainstream enough problem, i.e. official Nvidia drivers that are not officially supported.

[sliverstorm]

I never really saw BSD as a desktop operating system, regardless what OSX achieved with Darwin.

It made for an amazing mailserver last I tried it though. I used 3.4 on an ancient P4 with maybe 256MB of RAM an 8GB hard drive. Turns out that was way more computer than it needs, and it was so stable I began to think of it the same way I think of my router.

[SageRaven]

The Radeon stuff is improving rapidly. You can't buy a diesel truck for the power and then complain that it won't take gasoline. ;-)

To hell w/ NVidia. If they won't play ball, I'll spend my money on an arguably slightly lesser performing product that is more open.

Though, currently the linux emulation layer in CURRENT has a change that broke the linux Flash binary. I've been flash-free for about 2 weeks now. I can't decide if that's a curse or liberation. Otherwise, I personally think FreeBSD is a mighty fine desktop OS. ZFS is really nice.

[Wilya]

Nvidia actually provides drivers for FreeBSD, which have worked well for me so far. Nothing on the ATI side, though.

And I don't think the users of other BSDs have much need for 3D acceleration..

[tobiasu]

Eh? I run OpenBSD as a "desktop" and I use 3D acceleration to play 3D games and all that stuff. Even playing videos these days requires DRI support in the kernel. With a bit of careful hardware selection, 3D acceleration works out of the box on OpenBSD.

[dfc]

You said it best the first time when you said you missed pf.