[mwcampbell]

I wonder if the problem is that so many of my generation, including myself (I'm in my early 40s), learned programming as kids because it was fun, and we (including myself) never fully outgrew that childish mentality. Maybe the industry would be better off if more programmers were like my uncle who learned programming in college as a job to make a living, and treated it as such, and nothing more.

[noobermin]

If not there at the very least should be a balance, where code can be "fun" and you can have all the innovation you want while at the end of the day, tried, true, and boring solutions don't get thrown out for no real reason.