[Apocryphon]

Why do you assume that unions, or some other form of labor power, would burden startups? In fact, why do you assume that they might not lead to fewer startups failing?

[erlich]

Different incentives. If a company fails, employees would be disappointed but can go get another job pretty easy. For investors they lose a lot of money. Employees have less to gain+lose.

A collective of employees is not going to make better decisions than management. And if there are some who would, then they should be moved into management.

I only see the impact a union could have on improving morale and staff retention and therefore productivity if management/owners didn’t value it enough. These are things management are measuring and factoring in to their decisions. If management/owners are this bad then there isn’t much hope for the company.

And without a union management could simply provide autonomy to have the same effect. If Union force needs to be used to get mgmt to do the right thing for maximizing profits, it’s not really worth it.

[Apocryphon]

> employees would be disappointed but can go get another job pretty easy

True enough in tech, though the economy will tell.

> For investors they lose a lot of money. Employees have less to gain+lose.

VCs expect 9/10 of their investments to fail. Ask Masa Son how much Vision Fund's startup losses impact Softbank's bottom line, or his machinations.

> A collective of employees is not going to make better decisions than management.

Unsubstantiated value judgement.

> If management/owners are this bad then there isn’t much hope for the company.

And what's so wrong trying to save a company?

> If Union force needs to be used to get mgmt to do the right thing for maximizing profits, it’s not really worth it.

That's just defeatism!

[rexpop]

> I only see the impact a union could have on improving morale

There is literally no higher calling.