[devmunchies]

> Traitorous Eight

employees who left and started a competitor? how is that mutiny?

> ousting of Jobs

technically, the board had the voting power, and he wasn't even CEO. Generals removing a lieutenant isn't mutiny. If anything, he was planning a coup (mutiny) himself.

[Apocryphon]

Desertion isn't mutiny now? Acquiring Jobs' splinter cell, and making him a general, isn't rewarding his attempted mutiny?

[devmunchies]

either way, your examples resulted in employees leaving and starting a competitor, which were net positive for the industry. They didn't create a union. They grew the industry as a whole which was better than any union could do at the time.

[Apocryphon]

You are right in saying they created a net positive, and I am right in asserting that mutiny is not always a bad thing, which you are wrong on.