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by Kranar 1463 days ago
Then you fail to understand what is a fairly basic point, which is that most people misinterpret the meaning of a criminal record and think that 70 million people in the U.S. were at some point criminals, when in fact a criminal record can be issued simply for an arrest (even if you turn out to be innocent), as well as benign matters such as an unpaid parking ticket.

The FBI might not keep track of unpaid parking tickets in Texas as part of their own criminal record database, but Texas does keep unpaid parking tickets on record for their own criminal background check:

https://texas.staterecords.org/criminal.php

As that site points out, any arrest or warrant for arrest even for a misdemeanor will be recorded in a criminal background check.

Different government agencies have different standards for what goes into a criminal record so that there is no such thing as one single unambiguous definition for what a criminal record is. Consequently most people, including hiring managers, or people on Hacker News shocked that 70 million people have such a record, may misinterpret what a criminal record means, what the implications of one are and how serious having one is.

There is no harm in pointing out to people that a criminal record, in and of itself, does not mean that someone is guilty of a criminal offense or even that they're guilty of something serious. It could be something benign like an unpaid parking ticket or someone was arrested who turned out to be entirely innocent.

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The 70 million number (the one you were specifically nitpicking) comes from the FBI database, not from a union of state level databases. So that's 70 million people who have been convicted of or arrested on a felony charge, or had a state explicitly ask the FBI to retain a record of their misdemeanor arrest, per your source.

OP was clear in this thread that "criminal record" wasn't synonymous with "has been to prison." This point was also explained to me explicitly during all the pre-employment background checks I have had.