| > While there is some uncertainty non of it really touches companies whose main business isn't collecting PII. You are a real estate management company, and you have a form to collect names and phone numbers, just to call prospects back. Is your main business "collecting PII"? No. Were you affected by GDPR? Yes. Same thing if you are a restaurant owner with a website that had an OpenTable integration to accept reservations. > you are saying that big corps need to hire an army of lawyers, spend resources on catching their competitors Now you are just playing dumb. I am not saying that they need to catch anyone. What I am saying is that they benefit from the uncertainty and complexity from a piece of legislation that could potentially affect smaller business who were not equipped to respond properly. > are you just some libertarian/ancap who rages against regulation without actually knowing anything about it? I spent the 6 months before GDPR dealing with the changes that had to be done in an e-commerce startup I was working at the time, and I saw all the questions from vendors and all the people being worried because they simply had no clue what needed to be done to be compliant. But feel free to keep thinking I am just "raging against regulation". The hilarious thing about the "you don't know what you are talking about" accusation is that it usually comes from people who blindly bought into the idea that GDPR has any tooth into the fight against surveillance. If what I am saying is not enough to convince you of how backwards GDPR is, could I then ask you for any example where GDPR was effective in reducing the amount of unnecessary data collection? Is Google/Facebook/Amazon/Twitter/Microsoft/Apple tracking you less after GDPR? No, they continue to do the same shit. They are still punching you in the face, the only difference is that now you are being "asked for consent". |
I give information on what that data will be used for and don't use it for anything else. I don't have to think about GDPR for a second more. What is the problem here?
> Same thing if you are a restaurant owner with a website that had an OpenTable integration to accept reservations.
Is the information provided necessary for service fulfillment and only used for that purpose? What is the problem here?
> What I am saying is that they benefit from the uncertainty and complexity from a piece of legislation that could potentially affect smaller business who were not equipped to respond properly.
Does the complexity of GDPR not cause more trouble to big corps since they themselves are more complex than a small business? With what complexity and uncertainty are my real estate management company and my restaurant hit?
> I spent the 6 months before GDPR dealing with the changes that had to be done in an e-commerce startup I was working at the time, and I saw all the questions from vendors and all the people being worried because they simply had no clue what needed to be done to be compliant. But feel free to keep thinking I am just "raging against regulation".
Then why are you having problems answering a simple question regarding GDPR? You say you have experience with GDPR so use it. What advice did you or your company give to those worried vendors and other people? On what grounds was your answer based? If you can't answer that then you really are just raging against something you don't understand.
> The hilarious thing about the "you don't know what you are talking about" accusation is that it usually comes from people who blindly bought into the idea that GDPR has any tooth into the fight against surveillance. If what I am saying is not enough to convince you of how backwards GDPR is, could I then ask you for any example where GDPR was effective in reducing the amount of unnecessary data collection?
Literally the only thing you said is that big corps have lawyers so regulation isn't fair and we should remove it. You know what also isn't fair? Capitalism. Big corps have more money so we should abolish capitalism. That is your logic and level or argumentation. From now on, if you poses an ounce of intellectual honesty, you should be an anti-capitalist. Or at least explain why capitalism is ok but regulation is not.
> Is Google/Facebook/Amazon/Twitter/Microsoft/Apple tracking you less after GDPR? No, they continue to do the same shit. They are still punching you in the face, the only difference is that now you are being "asked for consent".
Yes they are because I didn't give them my consent.