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> This is flamebait unrelated to data privacy risk.

It's not flamebait, it's a legitimate reason. A country who has been killing people in various wars/invasions is unlikely to behave ethically when it comes to privacy.

If you behave unethically in one area, I have every reason to assume that you'll also behave unethically in another area.

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The number of governments that have not had to deal with ethics concerns is exactly zero.

Rather than drawing a broad hand-wavy link between ethics concerns and respect for privacy, you'd be much more accurate in measuring privacy by directly considering their practical legal frameworks that protect privacy.

> A country who has been killing people in various wars/invasions is unlikely to behave ethically when it comes to privacy.

This doesn't hold up. There are many countries that will straight up man-in-the-middle internet traffic with no oversight that have been at peace longer than Germany.

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> The number of governments that have not had to deal with ethics concerns is exactly zero.

Some are worse than others. America is one of the worst. War, invasions, mass surveillance, mass incarcaration...

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This is simply not factual, it is an information availability bias. America is one of the most publicized nations, and sunlight is one of the best disinfectants. By any academically rigorous measure, the US ranks high in ethics, along with most other western style democratic systems.

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Tell that to the people that were killed by American military in Iraq, Afganistan, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen and probably other places I am forgetting.

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This has nothing to do with internet privacy.

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Of course it does.

A country like America that has been murdering people in many wars around the world without hesitation is unlikely to take my privacy seriously. They don't respect my right to live, do you think they will respect my right to privacy?