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by rougefeta 5350 days ago
Please help us beat the clock.

http://rougefeta.com/view?id=GCZS2PXFur4uNApe4erotWY

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This is THE most confusing thing I have come across.
MVP, thrown together over a few hours on a deadline.

Have you tried offering an incentive?

It is not an MVP...it is an invite. I am growing tired of these misinterpretations of what an MVP (formerly known as a prototype) should be. RTFM.

rougefeta, you need a Tech Co-Founder, but do you really think you're going to get a quality TCF this way? If you need a translator to read your "offering" then you are doing it wrong.

1) What are you trying to accomplish? 2) How is this a product? 3) Wow.

rougefeta, your intentions are not aligned with your output/implementation. I wish you the best and hope the comments on this thread have been helpful. You can do it, thank the stars you did not invest a ton of capital yet. Keep us informed of your intentions and progress!

I'll be fully honest.

This thing sounded like such a crazy idea that I was laughing half the time building it. At some point I had even made offered incentives automatically end with ", darling"

On what we are trying to accomplish: the "bloody brilliant" comment in the incentive link offers one explanation. Our explanation is simpler: we wanted to make some people answer our emails, and didn't know how.

Did you get quality? Again, I wish you the best of luck.
@veyron Um yeah, funny how it looks 'right' in the textbox...perhaps you can suggest a fix to HN dev? Too much stripping of the whitespace.

Tellin' me!??! Sherlock!

If you want to reply to a post for which the "reply" link is missing, click on the "link" link and you will see a reply text box :)
Wow, thanks for the great tips. Can you point me to the "HN broken features" list so I can help fix them?
Also, can you keep to the topic? rougefeta needs some help.
You need to put two newlines to show items on separate lines

for example:

abc\ndef

shows up as

abc def

and

abc\n\ndef

shows up as

abc

def

I cannot figure out why clicking “incentive” seems to be a circular link, and have no idea what you mean by incentive.

Agreed: This is the most confusing thing I have seen in recent memory.

I seem to be having issues accessing this page. Can you post a screenshot / explain what exactly you are doing?
Interesting, this is apparently built off of news.arc

...what is it?

We are trying to figure out a way to make people respond online. Say, through email.

We are not spammers. This is in Arc, but written from scratch.

Interesting idea, I think you need two things though:

1) Better copy. I (and others here I'd imagine) have no idea what exactly your site is. A short blurb that's a couple of sentences long that explains what is helps greatly.

2) Post this as its own post instead of a comment in another post. This way it looks a little spammy (which I understand is not your intention). Make sure you mention how it's built in Arc in your title, and post a story on http://arclanguage.org as well (if you haven't already). Beware that new accounts posting links often get marked as spam, that's why pg recommends you have an account for a few weeks before doing a Show HN post, which would be the type of post you'd do in your case.

Good luck!

The incentive to respond is the content of the email (or the identify of the sender). If I want to "offer" the receiver of the email an added incentive to respond I can say so in the email. "Respond to this email and I will give you $1000."
Sometimes, the incentive cannot be monetary, because the recipient is not interested in money. What the recipient may be interested in is an indication whether it is worth investing in a reply.

We had changed "pays" to "helps" at an earlier stage.

Reading that hurts my head lol
What is this? Spam?
It takes talent to write something this confusing. Don't want to see the code they write
Care to elaborate? We would welcome feedback.
the english in the text displayed is not very clear. it might make logical sense, but it reads as confused english. i would guess that you are not native english speakers - you need to get someone who does speak english well to fix it for you.
Aside from the text at each step being badly written, users have no idea wtf is happening overall or where they are in the process.

What you need to do is present up front the overall flow (ideally graphically; like 5 steps to completion at the bottom of the page and indicate which have been completed/what is being done now/what is in the future. Do this with graphics and very minimal (1-3 words) text. Writing 3 words to communicate something takes longer than writing 30.

I got pissed when I filled in something, clicked submit, and then the next page was "why?" before it would accept; at that point I bounced.

I'm not sure if arc makes this easier than something else.

your english is slightly off