[ASalazarMX]

Tell that to the animals we raise and cage for food. They'll likely take the first opportunity to be free, but it's not in their hands to decide that. They're completely in our hands, no matter if they like it or not. Humans have only traveled to the moon, yet in a few century developed weapons that would wipe an entire city. A civilization that has achieved interstellar travel could be advanced enough to blow up Mercury to send a message: "Do you want to be our slaves, or do you want humanity to end?".

[hitovst]

That's an easy question to answer for both free man, and slave.

[ASalazarMX]

Good luck getting every "free man" to agree, or even everyone in your immediate circle. Real life is not an X-Men issue where Captain America is unwavering, uncompromising and always victorious; sometimes good generals call for strategic retreats, sometimes the sensible option is living to fight another day.

You don't know how true is your manly bravado until your life, and the lives of those you love, are on the line and defenseless. I say that as someone who has lived in cities of Mexico where organized crime rules with impunity, but anyone who has seen war, not from the drone cameras or humvees but from their own homes, would tear you a new one for being so naive.

[hitovst]

Individuals decide for one. It's the slavers/slaves that want to decide for, & force, other people. If individuals decide to work together, or not, that is their right.

>You don't know how true is your manly bravado until your life, and the lives of those you love, are on the line and defenseless.

Freedom is the only possible security. Everything else is a fantasy. Sincerely, good luck with your principles. Please allow for others who think/believe differently, and do not try to sabotage them. As always, force is the issue. You're welcome to persuade, not to coerce.

[ASalazarMX]

You know what? Please ping me when you build Rapture at the bottom of the sea, I've always wanted to try one of those fancy plasmids.