[permalac]

But if you work for them in Barcelona the salary is still pretty bad.

[DeathArrow]

How bad is pretty bad?

[oblio]

I don't know about NTT, but salaries for software devs are really low in general. Think €30-40k per year. How FAANG are not leveraging such a poorly paid workforce in countries with a great climate, developed, safe, etc, I will never know.

[DeathArrow]

That's low.

In Romania FAANGs aren't paying better salaries than market average, so the only incentive to work for a FAANG is to have it on your CV, stay 2 years and find better employment.

FAANGs get it really cheap here as they pay 10x lower wages than in the US.

[oblio]

Romania doesn't have Netflix, Apple, Facebook and barely has Google through Fitbit.

[ben_w]

I think the sort of person FAANG wants to hire, knows how much they can get from moving and has either already relocated or found remote work.

[DeathArrow]

Do FAANG hire remote developers?

[bamboozled]

Because any good talent leaves Japan immediately for the USA as soon as they can for better pay and a more relaxed life?

[DeathArrow]

Parent was talking about Spain, not Japan.

And as a foreigner I think it's very hard to get a working visa in the US.

[KerrAvon]

They do. At least some of the FAANG have important software development offices in Japan.

[DeathArrow]

The parent was speaking about Spain, not Japan.

[geodel]

Yeah, FAANG can just hire all the engineers at NTT, all these Indian IT outsourcing companies, European tech companies and other I might have missed. I mean for christ sake this is 2022. If every CRUD micro services peddler and every network engineer who solves 5 firewall opening issues in a day couldn't get USD 200K / year for 6 hr work day, free food and drinks, onsite laundry, massage, haircut and medical checkup. What is the point of even living on this polluted earth.

[DeathArrow]

Why do you think software developers in the rest of the world are worse than their US peers?