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by Ixiaus 1465 days ago
"Frens" in particular is, yes.
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https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fren

It predates the co-opting by the alt-right though.

> It predates the co-opting by the alt-right though.

So does the "OK" gesture. The swastika existed for almost 2000 years, and was a good luck symbol, even in the west, until 1930s. The sonnenrad, the othal rune, the Celtic cross, and the triskele.

> So does the "OK" gesture.

P(uses the OK gesture) dwarfs P(is alt-right). Plug it all into Bayes theorem and you'll find that P(is alt-right|gestures OK) must be small.

In other words, you're falling for a manufactured hysteria. One that is designed to make people jump at shadows, level unjustified accusations, and generally make you seem uncredible and neurotic.

Only fringe ideologues desperately searching for outrage think the OK gesture has anything to do with white supremacy. This is the McMartin Preschool of the present day.

The swastika, on the other hand, was used in living memory by an organization that murdered millions of people. Like the toothbrush mustache, it will be generations before that can come back in style.

I don't remember "frens" being used as a symbol by a country/ideology commiting war crimes during a world war.
Go on.
"far-right ethno-nationalists"
Hmm learned something new. All this time I thought it was just lingo of the younger generation
deep sigh

"The idea is to talk like a small child or intellectually disabled person"

That's effectively an ignorant description of the entire doge meme.

RationalWiki's "source" for this information is a Reddit post with 6 upvotes and 5 comments. It's remarkable that anyone on hackernews even knew about this.

What is this subculture that watches for any slang to be used by an objectionable group so that it can be proclaimed a cultural characteristic of said group?

> information is a Reddit post with 6 upvotes and 5 comments. It's remarkable that anyone on hackernews even knew about this.

Not for any "extremely online" person. Hell iirc, the original honkler subreddit or whatever the hell it was called even made in to mainstream media.

FWIW I think GP has a point, a lot of this stuff just bleeds into normal Internet slang. Despite what the news would say, I don't expect any rando posting pepe memes in a discord to be a hardcore /pol/ dweeb.
I'm glad to see there's barely any uptake of the term on HN: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Mostly people talking about it, not using it.

Yeah look, I'm still pretty young, I'm usually "in" on whatever Internet slang is en-vouge and even use it myself in more casual places, but I still cringe when I see "zoomer speak" on this site.
It makes sense, but wouldn't think about that myself. But still it's just a word from Apu Apustaja memes that rightwingers try to take for themselves.