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by huhwat 1465 days ago
Tesla cars are garbage, speaking as a Tesla owner. They demo nicely, but they are put together poorly. The minute there's any meaningful competition they'll crumble.

Combined with the risks from their autopilot system and their mistreatment of workers and their CEO being a right wing edgelord? There's plenty of reasons to think Tesla might not be on a good path.
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sib 1465 days ago
Tesla cars are not garbage, speaking as an owner - we currently have both our 2nd [2018 Model 3] and 3rd [2022 Model Y] acquired-new Tesla vehicles.

Other than tire rotation, cabin air filter change, and wiper fluid refill, our cars have required no maintenance.

But arguing from anecdote doesn't really help.

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dntrkv 1465 days ago
Tesla has been topping the list in terms of buyer satisfaction for many years now. They have their issues, but people love them.
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tzs 1465 days ago
They've also been topping the lists of unreliability.

Many people like the things Tesla does well enough to not be bothered by the things it does poorly so are satisfied.

Tesla seems to have the best EV drivetrain in the business (I'm counting the battery as part of the drivetrain) and the best charging network, but seem to be worse in most other aspects.

My guess is that the other car companies will catch up on EV drivetrains faster than Tesla can catch up on the rest of a car.

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huhwat 1465 days ago
They did top the lists, but they've dropped off as owners deal with the reality of owning them.

An electric car, competently built, will wow most folks. Remember that the satisfaction numbers are comparing apples to oranges, given the limited competition Tesla has at the moment.

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dntrkv 1465 days ago
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisf...

https://zutobi.com/us/driver-guides/global-happy-motorist-in...

They're still at the top.

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yreg 1465 days ago
>they are put together poorly

This depends a lot on the factory / year of production. E.g. the 2021/2022 from Giga Shanghai have great quality. Of course, consistency is the key, Tesla has to achieve it across all of the factories.

And I have no idea what 'risks' are you talking about regarding autopilot.

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