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by iron2disulfide 1469 days ago
Skimmed the article; what's the difference between this program and what's already taught in electrical and computer engineering classes? I studied ECE for my BS and MS and there were already a couple of chip design-related courses: digital design, VLSI, FPGA, semiconductor physics, IC fabrication. I guess more specialized coursework on verification or manufacturing would have been nice, but I don't think that would warrant a whole new academic program.

edit: forgot to mention that I worked as a chip designer for many years right out of school.

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I had the same thought. Upon reading, this sounds like it goes deeper on the semiconductor physics and fabrication parts. Relevant bit:

"Courses will address supply chain issues in chemical engineering, mechanical engineering for tool development, thermal management, packaging, and material engineering as well as industrial engineering, logistics, and manufacturing optimization."

There is a big difference between chip design and running a factory...which generally isn't taught anywhere. When I got my ChE degree many years ago we had like 3 or 4 courses for semiconductors and in one course we learned about the manufacturing aspect. Even then it was super outdated with respect to what I actually dealt with when working as a Process Engineer at a fab.
That makes sense. It kind of seems like the new program will be sort of a mish-mash of ChE, systems eng, and ECE (i.e. what it takes to actually run a fab).

In fairness, I think overall there are no curricula specifically about how to run a factory. Most engineering degrees focus on design and theory rather than industrialization. For example, there are no classes on how to run datacenters for computer science majors.

Agree. Fact. But why so. And more importantly why not?

Some discipline want to teach you basic so they do not stop you from innovation. Some just exposure (mba, mgt) so you have to deal with practical case, it’s complexity and not just theory.

IT is not just about computer research … hence may be one should expand one’s scope.

Which company did you work for?
In chronological order: a fabless IP company, FPGA company, FAANG company. I've since taken a hiatus from chip design.