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by open-paren 1464 days ago
I argue that moving it “out of support” doesn't mean anything for what browsers you have to support. Users and businesses still using IE11 aren't exactly those that are on the top of their IT policy game, so I doubt they will be jumping when the browser is “no longer supported by Microsoft.”
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You can now brag that the software is out of support.

Which yeah, doesn't mean absolutely anything for existing software that is still working and requires the old version to run. If by any chanche you need to support that configuration, the "official" deprecation simply means "good luck!" and a pat on the back.

Just like XP, I've seen plenty of shops with custom software that still requires XP+IE6+activex that still get active development, because a total rewrite is out of the question when changes are small (and that is totally understandable as well).

The poor folks though will need to containerize and isolate everything from any network though to keep it somewhat safer. If they do that at all.

Heck, I've heard of DOS still being used in industrial applications. If it ain't broken, don't fix it... though I would hope these systems are air-gapped from the rest of the world and not connected to any network.
Official deprecation like this helps companies say “sorry, we don’t support IE11 anymore either, you’ll have to upgrade.” Not all companies will do this, but plenty will.
A couple of weeks back and edge update forced many many many users to Edge earlier than expected, if your tried to launch iexplorer.exe it would go to edge instead

IEMode in Edge also works very well

So if these companies are getting windows updates at all, or edge updates at all is somewhat not optional

I have a friend who works for a VA Hospital and they've switched as of yesterday. So we know the DOD/VA is at least switching off old IE8/IE10 Apps.

The funny part is the app they use still works, you're just forced to run it in compatibility mode on Edge (Holy, I forgot this existed) but their user profiles have limited access so they can't right-click, properties, unless they have admin priv.

New browser, same old 2009 problems. Obviously this is not the browsers fault, it's just insane to hear about shops like this that still hold on to legacy apps FOREVER.

A big reason for why this is in my opinion, is not that they don't want to get an update, it's because of corporate politics. Someone has to be the manager that goes "boss, I want to spend money and resources to update an essential service and doing so will increase security and productivity." What is heard "<underling> boss, I want to spend money".

Bosses never want to spend a cent, because of the "shareholders". They also don't want to say "yes" to something because if there is an issue, it is then their fault even if it was worth doing. They would rather kick the can down the road until the wheels come flying off the car.

This is why nothing ever gets updated.

That could be some of it, by my experience when it comes to IT, we have a terrible track record for explaining why the BUSINESS should want to spend the money, not why IT wants to spend the money

IT: Well IE is end of life so we need to Spend X to upgrade

That is an IT reason, not a Business Reason.

It needs to be put into a BUSINESS reason, and I admit I am terrible at that as well