[mihaigalos]

> Sure, you can write bad code in any language, but C and C++ are just bad languages.

Let's give them credit for what we've achieved using them. I would definitely pick Rust over C++ any time, I respect C++ for all the cool things it gave us.

[avgcorrection]

If they are bad languages then you should give most of the credit to the programmers that were using them.

[mbrodersen]

I wish I could upvote this more than once :) The unsung heroes out there are the developers who takes over a garbage dump of a system and turn it around. That is way harder than writing a system from scratch.