[rayiner]

I feel like we are seeing in real time how swing voters and aspirational immigrants set the course of both parties. When Republicans win in 2022 focusing on inflation, crime, and the culture war, what should be the takeaway about “what constituents want?”

[Schroedingersat]

The takeaway should be that propaganda and limiting the options to the two worst via gerrymandering, FPP and other broken voting systems results in two options which are fundamentally the same but differ on fear of crime vs paying lip service to diversity. The very fact that you're attempting to lay the blame on swing voters and aspirational immigrants is proof that the system is fundamentally broken and completely uncoupled from the wants or needs of the majority.

Hugely popular measures that actually help the people rather than the rich are rejected bipartisanly at every single level of government in every country where murdoch reigns using the same garbage propaganda whilst privacy is removed, police powers are increased, and trillions of taxpayer dollars are sent to coal and oil barons or arms dealers based on votes taken in the middle of the night.

At a local level the 1% of NIMBYs are listened to over the 70% of people that actually want low carbon, more convenient transport or money to be spent on local parks and activities or increased housing density whilst budgets for the local PD to LARP as a special forces team are doubled without consultation and yet another poor neighborhood is demolished for highways. This happens no matter whether the local pro-facist or shit-light party is in power.

Painting a rainbow or the local indigenous flag on an intersection is completely meaningless when both parties agree to defund and privatise social services (or at the very best one party defunds and sells these things to their buddies for a song while the other party undoes 10% of the damage and pats themselves on the back).

[rayiner]

> The takeaway should be that propaganda and limiting the options to the two worst via gerrymandering, FPP and other broken voting systems results in two options which are fundamentally the same but differ on fear of crime vs paying lip service to diversity.

How does “gerrymandering” lead to under 30% of Hispanics approving of Biden?

> The very fact that you're attempting to lay the blame on swing voters and aspirational immigrants is proof that the system is fundamentally broken and completely uncoupled from the wants or needs of the majority.

I’m not “blaming” anyone. I’m asking you to think honestly about what these folks really want, instead of what you wish they want.

> Hugely popular measures that actually help the people rather than the rich are rejected bipartisanly at every single level of government in every country where murdoch reigns using the same garbage propaganda whilst privacy is removed, police powers are increased, and trillions of taxpayer dollars are sent to coal and oil barons or arms dealers based on votes taken in the middle of the night.

The typical aspirational immigrant doesn’t care about any of these things. The top issue among Hispanics right now is inflation: https://www.newsweek.com/ominous-sign-democrats-poll-says-in.... The plurality want police funding increased: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/26/growing-sha...

Asians, the fastest growing minority group, were instrumental in recalling Chesa Boudin in SF, supporting it by larger margins than anybody else.

> At a local level the 1% of NIMBYs are listened to over the 70% of people that actually want low carbon, more convenient transport

This is urbanist fantasy. Most people, especially aspirational immigrants, don’t meaningfully care about “low carbon.” Most want a suburban house with a pool. As incomes among Hispanics improves, for example, pickup truck sales are skyrocketing in that demographic.