| >> Germany, for all it's renewables, let out significantly more greenhouse gases per capita than surrounding countries, such as France. > This has also nothing to do with nuclear. When comparing to France, it has EVERYTHING to do with France using Nuclear, where Germany still uses a lot of gas and coal. > They don't leave us with radioactive waste, we have no space to put away. Don't believe the propaganda about nuclear waste. The volume of high grade waste is tiny, and it remains super-dangerous for much less time than people realize. And low-grade waste is mostly less dangerous than car-exhaust. > "Modern" is also relative in this case Gen3 reactors are safe enough, if not already over-engineered for safety in many cases. >> Germany even pays Denmark to shut down their wind power > Why do you even bother quoting me when you're not answering to this? You were bragging of Germany paying, I confirmed that Germany was paying. > What do you suppose? Give an electric heater to 95% of all German households? If Germany is serious about getting rid of fossil fuel based heating/cooking etc, they could do like Norway, gradually ramp up taxes of natural gas for heating to a level just above the price of electricity. After 10 years at that level, switching becomes easy. Norway started this 20 years ago, and when fossil fuels were banned in 2020, most had already transitioned. > Btw: while Norway runs green, they dig for oil and gas and sell it to others making all the good on the environment bad again. That's one way to see it. If the environmentalist movement in Norway gets their way, Norway will shut down the oil and gas production asap. Realists would say that as long as Europe depends on fossil fuels, it's better that they get it from Norway, than being even more dependent on dictatorships in OPEC+Russia. Anyway, Germany is in a similar situation with its car industry. Is Germany responsible for the polution generated by German-produced cars? Or do you put all the blame on the oil-producer? > Nobody said they need it. It's one of the batteries for the rest of the grid. This is how the grid works. Actually, Norway has very little capacity for pumped storage. If Europe can sell us power on windy days, we can temporarily shut down our hydro plants on those days, and export a similar amount when there is less wind in the North Sea. But with Europe currently being so low on production capacity, this balance has turned into significant net exports for Norway. The effect of that to the average Norwegian is similar to what it would be if Germany simply banned natural gas heating overnight. Electrical ovens cost almost nothing compared to the electricity itself. As long as the price differenc between Germany and Norway remains as high as it is, there is no way Norwegian consumers will be willing to pay German prices. Switching back to fossil fuels for heating is not an option here, so consumers are stuck with consumption that is 2-4x higher than most countries. So be careful about depending on Norway to be part of the grid for much longer. It's simply not in the best interests of the Norwegian population anymore. |