[elktea]

EVs are not going to prevent fucking over the future. There is no good future where we continue to produce 70 million new cars per year.

[pornel]

That's true, but the short-term choice is mainly between 70MM ICE cars vs 70MM EVs, because car-dependent urban sprawl has already been built, and people living there are very strongly opposed to even smallest changes in urbanization.

[1234letshaveatw]

And iPhones. And avocados. And pistachios. And, And, And...