[deeplearner1]

This entire thread is honestly so disturbing, this comment especially. Not only is it rife with misinformation (using copyrighted material for training is totally legal and the whole project is paid out of pocket), but is it really that big of a deal to want credit for the work they’ve done? The developer has had their work stolen by companies, influencers, and grifters, and people here are getting pissy that they can’t wait 10 seconds to wait for a popup.

I don’t know why, but I honestly expected more from HN.

[redredrobot]

You're right about the compute part being wrong. I never said it wasn't legal, just that they took someone else's work to train it. I would hope that voice synthesis is illegal without permission from the voice's owner, but I imagine it is untested so far.

But it's not just about the popup - it 's more that when your work is fundamentally about using reusing someone else's character, it feels pretty hypocritical to be so focused on making sure you get credit.

[deeplearner1]

Just curious. Do you feel the same way about DALL-E and Imagen?

[redredrobot]

If they are used in a tool that lets you generate someone's likeness as part of user-specified new content, yes. But unlike 15.ai that isn't their core purpose and no such tool exists.

[layer8]

> wait 10 seconds to wait for a popup

The problem is that after having to wait for 10 seconds to reject their terms of service (which you should be able to reject right away) before even being able to see what the site is about, they are rickrolling you, effectively giving you the finger for not wanting to agree to their terms without context. That‘s quite unprofessional, counterproductive and antagonistic.

[bilekas]

I share this sentiment entirely. There seems to be a growing trend on HN that negativity is popular. A project like this, to me at least, would seem to be right up HN's street.

Shame to see the toxicity over a passion project, whos creator generously went out of his way to answer the questions and ridiculous comments.

[redredrobot]

I think there are a bunch of people who consider this work unethical or at least deeply in the grey. The negativity isn't that surprising

[Kiro]

Just stop it. We need good vibes, not this toxic hate or we will drive the cool people away.

[deeplearner1]

Making things up out of thin air like “the creator used someone else’s compute” goes beyond negativity because someone thinks the project is in the grey. That is just straight up disinformation.