[iqkznnft]

As a European, I am deeply embarrassed of how weak the EU has been, and it has immensely increased my admiration for the USA.

Im not saying that the USA has had the moral high ground in the past few wars it participated in. Certainly not in Afghanistan (I think in Vietnam the case was less clear cut). But if the argument that the USA enters wars to spread freedom and democracy was ever true, it's in Ukraine.

[yucky]

>But if the argument that the USA enters wars to spread freedom and democracy was ever true, it's in Ukraine.

Well, we know this isn't true this time either. If it seems like "this time is different" that just means there is a knowledge gap.

[iqkznnft]

That's like your opinion dude.

[splintercell]

We are not a nation of people with European descent anymore. Believe it or not, most non-whites in America don’t give a crap about doing anything about Europe. Hell, most people I know don’t even believe US should’ve entered WW2. No more than entering Vietnam was a good idea or entering Bangladesh during 1971 war to liberate it.

Think about this way, because of increased Muslim population, European countries have started to distance themselves from Israel. Why wouldn’t be the same for US?

Europeans aren’t even remotely aware of the warning call Donald Trump was. There is very little love for Europe in the US from all sides.

[iqkznnft]

I have no idea what your point was.

[splintercell]

Europe cannot rely on American intervention, irrespective of the grounds. It’s game over.

[iqkznnft]

You seen to believe that the rain America is helping the EU is shared heritage or something. It's not.

[splintercell]

That’s what it feels like, Germany is opening up its borders for Ukrainian refugees, but Greece wouldn’t for Syrian refugees who are a similar distance away to them.

When I say that’s what it feels like I want you to understand that every time I ask someone who is heavily in the favor of intervening in Europe here in the US, at its core it’s almost always “because these are people like us” argument. In America the whole argument for why we should intervene in Europe relies upon a hidden assumption, the moment you make it explicit, there is absolutely no way defendable (because nobody wants to be called racist and the non-racist position would be to advocate intervening all over the world, a quite unpopular opinion in the US these days).