[inamberclad]

Not to mention that the Embarcadero freeway was a horrific blight on the walkability of the city and our use of the waterfront. Now that it's gone, absolutely nobody misses it. The same might be said in the future about revitalizing downtown around residential life, but that's not enough to get a city to take major action. I don't know what my point is here, except that positive change can be slow.